Troubleshoot Your Grow - Mushroom Growing with MycoHaus Substrates - FAQ's (2024)

Spores VS Liquid culture

Spores are much more prone to contaminating grain than a liquid culture is simply based on the methods of how spores are collected.

Inoculating your substrate with a liquid culture is a far better method because you know your culture is alive and viable.

You can see if there is any other contaminates growing in it.

We tell people to always start with a liquid culture if possible.

It will speed up your growing time because you do not have to wait for the spores to germinate and establish themselves, they are already alive and growing.

If you have any petri dishes or a way to make agar media it is always a good idea to make your own liquid cultures, especially if you already have the spores.

How many ccs does it take to inoculate a kit / bag

There is no exact answer to this question. We generally tell people that 2-4 ccs of solution should be sufficient enough to inoculate the two-pounds of grain in this kit.

This amount can vary depending on how potent your syringes are and whether you are using spores or a liquid culture.

Even though this kit is five pounds, you only need to inject enough solution to inoculate the grain portion of the kit, because the colonized grain will in turn later spread throughout the compost.

It is important to know that you must not to add too much liquid as this can over saturate the kit and will cause slow or no growth.

Can I use spores to colonize compost

Ourcompost works best when inoculated with colonized grain spawn.

If you just inject this bag with spores you will more than likely not see any growth.

Spores need some kind of nutritive substance like grain to take ahold of and establish mycelium growth first.

Start by injecting your spores or liquid culture into a sterilized grain medium (we have this for sale in our store), then once the grain is colonized you can transfer it to the compost, then once the compost is colonized the mushrooms will grow right out of the bag or you can transfer them to some kind of fruiting chamber, tote or terrarium.

Foreign debris in bags

Our compost is made in very large batches and because the grain as process on the same machinery that process other types of grain and feed we sometimes find foreign debris such as sticks, corn, beans and yes sometimes bugs.

It does not happen often but it is pretty much unavoidable.

Everything in the bags have been cooked and sterilized and we have never seen the presents of insects in the bags negatively affect mycelium growth. Mushrooms will grow on pretty much any decaying matter.

Slow/No Growth

There are two factors with slow growth of mycelium.

They are temperature and oxygen.

Make sure you are offering a hospitable environment for your strain of culture to flourish in.

Slowly raise the temperature day by day and watch for growth.

Add more air into the bag by gently pulling the bag sides back and forth, pulling more oxygen through the filter.

grain is too wet / burst grains /appears to be too dry /moisture content is off

Our grain is produced in batches of about 400LBS at a time so it is pretty uniform.

Consistency is really something we strive for and is necessary for our products to work correctly.

I have noticed that the seasons and climate can affect the moisture content of the grain.

After the grain is cooked, it sits out on trays to let any excess moisture dry, then it is bagged and sterilized.

The sterilization process can cause the grain to expel excess moisture but this is usually reabsorbed as the bags cool down.

We also suspect shipping in extreme climates can cause abnormalities in the moisture content of the grain as well.

We are taking steps to ensure we are not putting out grain that is too wet and we adjust our cooking time due to the weather/seasons.

What do I do to get the kit to fruit? Taking it from incubation to fruiting stage

To take your kit from a vegetative (incubation) stage to the fruiting stage you need to change four variables, temperature, oxygen levels, humidity and light.

General you want to lower the temperature about 10-15 degrees from the incubation temperature.

This will vary depending on species. Oxygen levels are changed by opening the bag and allowing the kit to get some fresh air.

This is only necessary to do once or twice a day.

For the most part the kit needs to breathe through the filter patch.

Next, the humidity level needs to increase. This is done by misting the inside of the bag once a day.

You will need to be very carful not to over saturate the kit.

You want to see water droplets on the inside of the bag walls but not water pooling up on the substrate.

Last is light, and this can be done by moving it somewhere which to get a few hours of indirect sunlight every day.

Do not place the kit in direct sunlight.

A soft white light bulb is a more than sufficient light source.

Should there be water drops / condensation in the bags

Some condensation in the bags is normal.

Especially if shipped in extreme temperatures, bags can sweat out moisture.

As long as there is no liquid pooling up at the bottom of the bag you will be fine.

Just allow your bag to sit at room temperature for a few days after shipping before using to allow the moistureto reabsorb into the substrate.

Should the grains be mushy / the grain is too soft

The grains will be somewhat soft just due to the fact that they have been cooked but they should not be mushy. Think more of the texture of cooked rice and not mashed potatoes.

Grain to grain transfer

Open each bag and pour the colonized grain into the sterilized bag with about a 10 to 1 ratio.

Much like you do when inoculating compost.

One fully colonized bag of grain can in turn go on to inoculate 10 bags, and those 10 bags can inoculate 100 bags and so on.

This will allow you to always have colonized grain available and eliminate the need for spore syringes.

This will lead to a greater yield in a smaller turn around time.

We do not use spore syringes on our farm rather liquid cultures and grain to grain transfer.

The only downside is because you need to open the bags to transfer them, you must do this in a sterile environment.

Preferable with a laminar flow hood to prevent contamination.

Making sure your work area is truly clean. / constant contamination

We completely understand how frustrating it can be when bags do not produce.

However, have you tried testing your spores on a petri dish to ensure they are free of mold or contaminates?

It doesn’t matter how sterilized the needle is. If bacteria is in the syringe itself it will contaminate your bags.

We suggest not starting with spores but use a liquid culture or do grain-to-grain transfers.

This way you are starting with a live living culture and you will be able to see if there is any contaminates growing on it.

Another important thing is to make sure you are working and growing in a clean environment.

Do you have a HEPA filter or use a laminar flow hood?

Making sure the surrounding air is clean is a step that a lot of people overlook.

Spraying disinfectant will not necessarily clean 100% of the air in your work environment.

Especially if you have air circulating in the room such as from an air conditioner vent.

What temperature do I incubate my culture at

First off, different mushroom species will require different temps for incubation.

As some are tropical species and others can grown Alaska etc…

A general rounded amount is to incubate the mushrooms between 75-85 and then fruit around 65-75.

This is not exact but what we would advise doing is to google the growing conditions for the individual species you are trying to grow.

This will help you find the most optimal temperature for incubation.

Also, if you are not familiar check out a website called www.shoomery.org

We are a sponsor of the site.

They have a vast message board where you can find tons of useful information of growing just about any species you can think of.

Troubleshoot Your Grow - Mushroom Growing with MycoHaus Substrates - FAQ's (2024)

FAQs

Troubleshoot Your Grow - Mushroom Growing with MycoHaus Substrates - FAQ's? ›

Slow/No Growth

How long does it take for mushroom substrate to colonize? ›

Colonization occurs after inoculation. This is when the mycelium will start to take over the grain that was inoculated with spores. This period usually lasts between 3 to 6 weeks depending on strain and environmental conditions. Ideal conditions for this phase are in a dark place and temperature between 72 F – 80 F.

Why is my mushroom growing kit not working? ›

Not enough humidity

Humidity is quite important for mushrooms. If there isn't enough humidity, the mushrooms may slow down and/or stop growing. It would be like if we don't hydrate ourselves on a hot day or when we're exercising – we begin to slow down and not feel too good. Solution: You should mist more often.

Why am I not seeing mycelium growth? ›

Temperature Fluctuations:

Each mushroom strain has an ideal temperature range for growth. If the ambient temperature veers too far from this sweet spot, colonization can slow down or even halt.

How do you revive a mushroom substrate? ›

Inoculate some containers
  1. Gather your materials and get set up.
  2. Soak your substrate for 20 min - 1 hour or until fully saturated.
  3. Let excess water drain off your substrate.
  4. Measure for ideal hydration by squeezing the substrate in one hand - only a drop or two should drip out.

How do you know when substrate is fully colonized? ›

When the block has become completely white, it becomes denser, as the hyphae of the mycelium intertwine with each other. This means that the mycelium has completely colonized the substrate. Be sure to wait until the substrate is completely overgrown and becomes monolithic!

How do you know if mushroom substrate is too dry? ›

A) lots of water dripping shows that the substrate is too wet. b) a few drops released with some pressure show that the substrate is well watered. If it is too dry then with no drops will be released with pressure.

What speeds up mushroom growth? ›

Gypsum has been found to shorten the time it takes for the mycelium to grow throughout the substrate, according to researchers at the University of Putra Malaysia. That means it's quicker for the spores to grow throughout the growing block and start to grow mushrooms.

How do I know if my mushroom grow kit is contaminated? ›

The most common form of bacterial contamination in mushroom cultivation is known as “wet spot” or “sour rot”. It is characterized by a dull gray slime with a sour-smelling odor that appears excessively wet or mucus-like and often forms in uncolonized patches along the bottom of grain jars.

What does unhealthy mycelium look like? ›

If you spot green, blue, grey, or black patches on or in your fruiting box, your culture is most likely contaminated. Do keep in mind, however, that small blue stains in the mycelium may just be bruising and not mould. Especially where the rye presses the mycelium against the grow box, you may see some blue spots.

What is the best temperature for cubensis mycelium growth? ›

Growing mycelium should be kept in an ideal temperature range. For example, P. cubensis colonizes most rapidly between 75-80°F (24-27°C). Temperatures higher than this range may kill the mycelium and encourage growth of contaminants, and temperatures lower than this range may slow down colonization.

Why is my substrate not colonizing? ›

If the substrate is too dry, the mushroom mycelium may grow very slowly, or not at all, and won't fully colonize the substrate. A substrate that's too wet encourages the growth of mold and bacteria that prevent the mycelium from colonizing the substrate.

Should I add coffee grounds to my mushroom substrate? ›

Mushrooms are nutrient hungry and thrive in coffee grounds. So you can grow food using food waste to reduce food and packaging waste, how cool is that!?! You don't need any specialist equipment, just a simple glass jar. The set up is relatively low cost and it's surprisingly easy to grow mushrooms this way.

What happens if mushroom substrate is too wet? ›

High temperatures can cause the mushroom substrate to dry out, leading to poor mushroom development. Yet, low temperatures can cause the substrate to become too wet, leading to the growth of mold and other microorganisms.

How moist should my mushroom substrate be? ›

The ideal moisture levels for growing mushrooms can vary depending on the species of mushroom you are cultivating and the specific substrate you are using. However, as a general guideline, most mushroom species prefer a substrate with a moisture content of around 60-75%.

How do you make substrate colonize faster? ›

The more spawn used the faster the bulk substrate will colonize. Recommended spawn ratios are usually no less than 20% (1 part spawn to 4 parts substrate).

How long does it take to colonize a MonoTub? ›

You should maintain a temperature of between 21-24°C for colonisation. After about 10 days your MonoTub should be fully colonised and ready to fruit.

Can you speed up mycelium spreading? ›

Mycelium growth can be sped up by optimizing certain conditions. Here are some key factors: 1. Temperature: The optimal temperature for mycelium growth is usually between 24-27°C.

How long does it take for mycelium to colonize agar? ›

After a week to ten days, mycelium grows from the tissue and colonizes the agar. Great care should be taken to select a fruiting body of the highest quality, size, color, shape or any highly desired characteristic.

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